tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4999044146888823867.post7320406707231269009..comments2023-10-30T08:00:43.585-05:00Comments on Shameless Popery: What Should Christians Think About Adoptive Parenting?Joe Heschmeyerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06998682878420098470noreply@blogger.comBlogger29125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4999044146888823867.post-2014267071294561842012-05-11T09:42:36.153-05:002012-05-11T09:42:36.153-05:00Joe,
I know I'm showing up a little late to t...Joe,<br /><br />I know I'm showing up a little late to this post but I had to speak a little frustration with a personal issue I have with "adoptive" parents. I have relatives who are Evangelical Christians who have chosen to become "sterile" due to their Protestant acceptance of sterilization. They did not want any more of their "own" children and instead wanted to do the best "Christian" thing and begin adoption. I think this is another interesting scenario for the issue of sterilization. I applaud them for their willingness to adopt, but have a problem with not wanting any more of their own so they can pursue their ministry "calling" to adopt.MJVhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02339196164529916903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4999044146888823867.post-48884778993382410032012-04-20T11:07:43.254-05:002012-04-20T11:07:43.254-05:00My wife Lisa and I are going through the adoption ...My wife Lisa and I are going through the adoption process right now. Thank you for this wonderful post! Please keep us in your prayers and check out our Facebook page. St. Joseph, pray for us! <br /><br />http://www.facebook.com/pages/Dan-and-Lisa-Adoption-Profile/312187555464020DanJay1983https://www.blogger.com/profile/06923142801518377566noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4999044146888823867.post-59820903866676049912012-04-20T08:27:38.926-05:002012-04-20T08:27:38.926-05:00Yeah, I think their point (the Catholic League'...Yeah, I think their point (the Catholic League's) was that Rosen didn't have to carry those kids for 9 months and give birth to them and then raise them as good parents, not as a charity. The job of raising kids at home only gets harder every time the mother gets pregnant and has to take care of the child in her and the one's around her. Nothing should be taken away from the act and love of adoption, but on a very innate and emotional level, conceiving a child is different from adopting one, it just is. I don't know how many funny conversations my family has had about who my son looks like more, myself or my wife...that doesn't happen with adopted kids. That's just a silly example I know, but the two are just inherently different, wonderful, but different.Nickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02828293917914778323noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4999044146888823867.post-64943791296536805952012-04-20T08:20:31.761-05:002012-04-20T08:20:31.761-05:00As an adoptive and foster parent and a new convert...As an adoptive and foster parent and a new convert(Easter Vigil 2012!), your post caught my attention today! Sad comment from the Catholic League - and fortunately, a sentiment that our family doesn't encounter too often. Your post, though, is the first time I've thought of Joseph's role as a model for my own - welcoming the children that God has given to our family and fully embracing that privelege of parenthood. And for Catholics, I wonder if adoption and foster care are facets of an openness to life?Jennifer Isaachttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09310636036307626280noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4999044146888823867.post-17551703958585030562012-04-19T18:02:34.663-05:002012-04-19T18:02:34.663-05:00Oh and I went to the Catholic League website and s...Oh and I went to the Catholic League website and sent them an e-mail asking them to clarify and/or apologize for this comment.Melissa Ghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03385841102163124156noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4999044146888823867.post-4092804069381084332012-04-19T17:52:50.641-05:002012-04-19T17:52:50.641-05:00Thank you for this. As an adoptive mother of 3 I a...Thank you for this. As an adoptive mother of 3 I appreciate this blogpost. My kids ears perk up when they hear the scriptures about adoption. We think they are special because they were adopted twice- once by my husband and me, and once by God at their Baptism.Melissa Ghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03385841102163124156noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4999044146888823867.post-45494640714596335172012-04-19T16:37:45.896-05:002012-04-19T16:37:45.896-05:00As a father of two foster children and two adopted...As a father of two foster children and two adopted children (who started off in our home as foster children), I can say that all those children are "my own." I am a teacher, and students are often stumped when they ask if I have any children of my own and I tell them that all four are my own but perhaps they meant if I have any biological children. Would that more Christians embraced the call to be foster parents! It's not for everyone, but there are so many kids right down the street who need good homes. What better witness to a pro-life worldview?misterd418https://www.blogger.com/profile/08518818600517432049noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4999044146888823867.post-84639788349097243262012-04-19T14:31:25.299-05:002012-04-19T14:31:25.299-05:00Thank you for this post! I agree that it is rathe...Thank you for this post! I agree that it is rather degrading to parents of adoption that they are not real parents. My wife and I both have a heart for adoption. Our struggle is weather we adopt internationally or locally. My wife, who speaks Mandarin, has wanted to adopt from China for a while now. We have just heard about the growing child trafficking trade that even impacts well respected adoption agencies in China, which is compounding the issue. We do not want to further the child trafficking. Does the Roman Catholic Church have an agency that adopts children from China? This is one of those problems with being pro-life and trying to do things the right way for all of God's children.Rev. Dark Hanshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12380701786666466708noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4999044146888823867.post-6240196086559751202012-04-19T14:00:17.101-05:002012-04-19T14:00:17.101-05:00Stealing x3. Love it!Stealing x3. Love it!JoAnna Wahlundhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09942928659520676271noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4999044146888823867.post-41803349032442709592012-04-19T13:24:54.747-05:002012-04-19T13:24:54.747-05:00"JAMES 1:26 Those who consider themselves rel..."JAMES 1:26 Those who consider themselves religious and yet do not keep a tight rein on their tongues deceive themselves, and their religion is worthless. 27 <b>Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans</b> and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world."Nickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01453168437883536663noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4999044146888823867.post-21370411136732850492012-04-19T10:35:51.580-05:002012-04-19T10:35:51.580-05:00I took the Catholic league statement to be against...I took the Catholic league statement to be against gay adoption, not adoption itself. Many people will say that gay adoption is better than foster homes or being in, "the system." Hate to break it to them but gay marriage is also a "system" we created and does not replace the father-mother model that God created.Fr. Damien Merrinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17821062504905546925noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4999044146888823867.post-85977730611851854472012-04-19T10:13:46.509-05:002012-04-19T10:13:46.509-05:00Dr. Ray just spoke on this on his show yesterday. ...Dr. Ray just spoke on this on his show yesterday. It's a modern mentality. He has 10 adopted kids, and when asked by one if he would have loved him more if he was his biological child, responds "How much do I love your mother? Is she related to me biologically?"<br />The irrationality of the denial of our ability to love beyond our own blood is par for a world that denies Christ and fights against the reflection of divine intimacy even within marriage.cephashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04881712205613797594noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4999044146888823867.post-90296969751994755022012-04-19T10:09:26.602-05:002012-04-19T10:09:26.602-05:00Did you say that Jesus was adopted?! This guy wan...Did you say that Jesus was adopted?! This guy wants to have a talk with you:<br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkO40uHGZUo<br /><br />:-)CJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13883761718979175423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4999044146888823867.post-33742271257309392102012-04-19T08:21:37.910-05:002012-04-19T08:21:37.910-05:00The outrage that the Catholic League feels is legi...The outrage that the Catholic League feels is legitimate, but not properly focused.<br /><br />It is outrageous that BY CHOICE a child is denied a father, and offered a counterfeit: a second mother.<br /><br />That said, the Rosen household isn't short on mothers, and the League's contrasting Rosen with Romney is completely off the mark in substance, though I agree with them in tone.Danielhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01915100833433055951noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4999044146888823867.post-8372478137698111372012-04-18T19:15:00.491-05:002012-04-18T19:15:00.491-05:00Tears. Thank you...so insufficient...but still......Tears. Thank you...so insufficient...but still...Danya @ He Adopted Me Firsthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00732437893256532188noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4999044146888823867.post-90378426028544280022012-04-18T17:46:35.161-05:002012-04-18T17:46:35.161-05:00I was about to write a blog post describing my rec...I was about to write a blog post describing my recent experience in the People's Republic of China. There I had the privilege of witnessing a transcendental father-son relationship spring into existence in an eye-blink, quite independent of the accompanying legal adoption process. <br /><br />I was going to conclude that, hitherto, I had unconsciously thought of our spiritual adoption as being a second-best option, God's faute-de-mieux for us. I had thought this was a Calvinist or Protestant error, perhpas the result of too much dwelling on forensic justification. Perhaps, though, it's just the error of anyone who hasn't seen adoption in action.<br /><br />BestOtepotihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12315317923902957130noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4999044146888823867.post-23423270025936168692012-04-18T17:26:23.974-05:002012-04-18T17:26:23.974-05:00Thanks for sharing all of these resources! And ma...Thanks for sharing all of these resources! And may God be with you in regards to adopting Malcolm.<br /><br />I.X.,<br /><br />JoeJoe Heschmeyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06998682878420098470noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4999044146888823867.post-43742008562637818682012-04-18T17:21:00.948-05:002012-04-18T17:21:00.948-05:00Congratulations to them!Congratulations to them!Joe Heschmeyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06998682878420098470noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4999044146888823867.post-88485731015729957932012-04-18T17:20:46.995-05:002012-04-18T17:20:46.995-05:00I second that: unfortunately, if I steal the St. N...I second that: unfortunately, if I steal the St. Nicholas line, it's going to be glaringly obvious.Joe Heschmeyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06998682878420098470noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4999044146888823867.post-38522455299211140352012-04-18T17:14:22.596-05:002012-04-18T17:14:22.596-05:00Great timing, Joe! My friend told me yesterday tha...Great timing, Joe! My friend told me yesterday that he and his wife are adopting. Will pass this along :)G Lainghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09736882298990748417noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4999044146888823867.post-63685081963309868562012-04-18T17:13:50.564-05:002012-04-18T17:13:50.564-05:00Joe,
What a great post. And Restless Pilgrim, I ...Joe,<br /><br />What a great post. And Restless Pilgrim, I am stealing the St. Nicholas line. That is classic beyond belief.Nick Lanierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00366106386394441317noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4999044146888823867.post-23609697720639117142012-04-18T16:44:00.408-05:002012-04-18T16:44:00.408-05:00...and awesome! I think that Saint Nicholas is a g......and awesome! I think that Saint Nicholas is a good one to invoke here...scredsoxfan2https://www.blogger.com/profile/10162308671130564720noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4999044146888823867.post-35933367935700873322012-04-18T16:34:32.578-05:002012-04-18T16:34:32.578-05:00More great information from "Our Family Smith...More great information from "Our Family Smith". Thanks for networking here.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02330218145561279994noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4999044146888823867.post-26160717307589353122012-04-18T16:33:10.721-05:002012-04-18T16:33:10.721-05:00....and then some! Saint Nicholas, Patron Saint of.......and then some! Saint Nicholas, Patron Saint of slapping-people-who-say-stupid-things, pray for us!Restless Pilgrimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16401126921440086739noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4999044146888823867.post-92046732379531961372012-04-18T16:27:59.070-05:002012-04-18T16:27:59.070-05:00Thank you so much for the link, Joe, and for this ...Thank you so much for the link, Joe, and for this wonderful post! I find the Catholic League's remark rather disheartening and a teeny bit infuriating. :) I certainly did not agree with Ms. Rosen's ridiculous statement, but to call adoption into question is beyond inappropriate. Anyway, I so appreciate your words here!Brianna Heldthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08224838737334231065noreply@blogger.com